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. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit high today. they are teaming up with china mobile, giving access to the world's biggest mobile phone markets. >>> if you just got up, very warm welcome to the start of your global trading day. stocks are on the front foot this morning. this is where we stand with u.s. futures. currently called up around about 30 points higher. the dow down, what, 13 points? the nasdaq called up just under 40 points. the s&p 500 at the moment is called up just over three points. it was down two points yesterday. european stocks doing a little built better. they were as flat as a pancake, as i've been saying. as flat as my pancakes.
. we talked about being in a stalemate recently in terms of the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and along with the rest of the leadership has presented an offer to the white house in a letter sent today based off something boles said to the supercommittee last year. you see the offer on the screen. 800 billion through tax reform, 600 billion in health savings, 300 billion in mandatory savings, 300 billion further discretionary savings. it nets to a total of $2.2 trillion in savings. what does it mean? in the letter we know the sticking point is the tax rates. the speaker says, quote, notably the new revenue in the boles plan would not be achieved through higher tax rates, which we continue to oppose and will not agree in order to protect small businesses and our economy. instead new revenue would be generated through pro-growth tax reforms that closes special interest loopholes and deductions while lowering rates. you see in this latest proposal while they offer up pour savings by saying, look, we can tax the rich people through the $800 billion figure. we can find more
meets with congressional leaders ability the fiscal cliff, house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. so what now? we'll have a fair and balanced debate just ahead. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. ♪ megyn: well, some good news for new yorkers, and this we're told may be a first. the new york daily news reports that no shootings, stabbings or even slashings were reported on monday. [laughter] congratulations! and while it's rare to go an entire day without such violent crimes near new york, some say it's not a total surprise. you see, the current stats show the nypd is on track to finish 2012 with just over 400 murders reported. that's a far cry from 1990 when more than 2,000 murders were recorded, so, you see, everything is relative here in new york city. just like in your town, right? ♪ megyn: that is the kind of report that makes nana pick up the phone and call me and say why do you live in that city? okay. there is a new government watchdog report just released to congr
that fiscal cliff house republicans are now offering up a plan of their own to avert that combination of spending cuts and tax hikes. it's set to welcome us all on january 1st if they don't have an agreement. i'm jenna lee. jon: some kind of welcome that would be. i'm jon scott. within hours of seeing the proposal the white house slammed the g.o.p. offer saying quote their plan provides nothing new and provides no details on what deductions they'll limb nature, loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve. house speaker john boehner inc insists his offer is the best one on the table calling it a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house. jenna: mike emanuel is with us. certainly a challenge to find this ideal plan. what is holding it up. >> reporter: the chairman of the senate budget committee wants a large come proceed hence i have deal in the range of $5 trillion and says a grand bargain can get done if everybody kaoels cool and doesn't overreact to every valley over the net. he this is a camp david-style summit might help things
with congress to work on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon they will meet with house speaker john boehner and governor jerry brown is not in that group. >>> tara is back, you know all about our commute, what is happening in pacifica. >>> well, to the northport tall bridge, they are able to stabilize that weak spot. right now we will take a live look headlights are flowing nicely as you make your way towards the mcarthur maze. up next, we have 880 up near the oakland coliseum, same story staff is flowing very nicely. it is dark up there but take my word for it, traffic is flowing nicely, 5:07 let's check with steve. >>> ukiah announced they can't hold a candle to what was there. heavier amounts will not be to the north. any rain on already saturated soil will need to be watched. one to two will cover it, i think this system will weaken considerably. it doesn't mean we will not get more rain. the pattern will change, there could be some morning drizzle in some of the higher elevations and rain in the north bay, you can see it there having returns near clover dale, winds near clover
president barack obama to work on the fiscal cliff. they will meet with house speaker john boehner, governor jerry brown is actually not in the group. >>> white house is rejecting the republican fiscal proposal. and it is a counteroffer to the one president barack obama offered last week. coming up, what the white house says is missing in the republican proposal. >>> time now time to bring tara back. if anybody is headed for the bay bridge, what do you want them to know. >> if we take a live look, this happens in just a matter of minutes and i bet you it is going on right now. so give yourself extra time if you are headed into the city right now. we can show you 580 westbound and then also up in the pittsburgh antioch area, slow going there on highway 4 as you make your way towards concord. last but not least, 280 san jose and traffic is moving along pretty well. 6:07 here is steve. >>> cloudy skies, now last hour, there has been some light rain in mendocino and down to salina, it is cloudy and a few areas of fog. this system is considerably weaker than the one we have and it looks like we w
will try to force a vote on the floor of the house to avoid that fiscal cliff. ktvu's allison burn reports, republicans are calling this political theater. alison? >> reporter: dave, leaderpy low say is trying to use a procedural move to force a vote on -- leader pelosi is trying to use a procedural move to force a vote on the fiscal cliff. >> let the house vote. >> reporter: that was the plea from harry reid with negotiations going nowhere. he's calling on john boehner to let a senate bill come to the floor. it would raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans but extend current tax rates for everyone else. the pressure is mounting on both sides. a new poll out this morning, a pew research polls show most americans would blame republicans in congress if we go over the fiscal cliff. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:13. right now, president obama is meeting at the white house with a bipartisan group of governors. reportedly, those governors asked for the meeting with the president. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on the solution to the fiscal cliff. in the
the fiscal cliff. ktvu house smoker john boehner could be facing an uphill battle within his own -- >> reporter: speaker boehner -- certainly talk here that some republicans could revolt if speaker boehner caves to pressure from the white house to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of americans. and while he's certainly had not agreed to that some are promising to block it. tea party favorite jim says giving into democrats to avoid the fiscal cliff is a temporary solution he's not willing to support. >> republicans should not be conceding the federal government needs more money. >> reporter: we will be hearing from democrats shortly. minority leader nancy pelosi is holding a news conference. we'll have that for you during our next update. reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >>> a los angeles area fire house is under fire for letting an exdeny letting an exercise company shoot a racy video inside its station. the video by hoopnautic.com shows a scantily dressed woman dancing around. the station was also in trouble last year for allowing some fi
to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do not think it goes far enough. i think it was greenspan that i heard last week said in a discussion panel that a recession as a result of going over the fiscal slope would be a small price to pay to pay back all the
a year end deadline, the white house is wasting no time rejecting the republicans' fiscal cliff counter offer on tax reforms and spending cuts. the gop plan consists of $2.2 trillion in saving officials a decade including raging the age for medicare from 65 to 67 and lowering the cost of living increases for social security benefits. they also propose overhauling the tax code to generate $800 billion in new revenue but without raising taxes on the wealthy. frn in a letter to the president, republicans attempted to sell the offer as the erskine bowles plan, comparing it to the same offer he drew up last year. >> i think he'd disagree. >> the co-chair of obama's deficit commission, but yesterday mr. bowles flatly rejected that connection. meanwhile, the white house is turning to campaign style messaging as a reminder of whose tax plan was chosen in the court of public opinion on election day. >> under my plan, first of all, 98% of folks who make less than 250,000, you wouldn't see your income taxes go up a single dime. all right? because you're the ones who need relief. but we're not goin
did hold a fiscal cliff phone call. but there is still one big problem. the white house still doesn't want to budge. >> we saw no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> gretchen: but isn't government spending the real problem? why aren't we hearing a lot about that, a lot of dough being thrown around. >> brian: how much do you know about the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra an
. president and speaker hold a fiscal cliff call. there is a problem, the white house doesn't want to budge. >> we face no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top two percent. >> gretchen: so is it really progress or a stand still. >> steve: meanwhile the reverend behind this nativity scene. live pictures and he has a message from the federal government. merry christmas, government. you are not the real savior. the reverend joins us live this christmas season. >> brian: super storm sandy couldn't wipe out his home but something else did. >> she said to me. are you sure your house is gone. you misplace a pen and pencil but not a house. >> gretchen: how the entire house vanished. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: a house is something that is not easy to misplace. if you leave it there, you come back and it is there. >> gretchen: you hope that happens. we'll fill you in on the details. in the meantime what happen in a phone call. a lot can happen, right. you can get in fights and agreements and compromise. hum, i am not so sure that h
with house republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise 8$800 million in fiscal cliff negotiations. we're expecting a news conference any minute now on that meeting. we'll bring it to you live. nancy pelosi spoke about it a few hours ago. here's what she had to say. >> i would hope that that would break the fall on the cliff, which is becoming more of a soil if they do that but really, we do need to put a down payment, not just in revenues which passing middle income tax cut means the end of holding them hostage. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. so what's happening now? >> reporter: well, we have been talking to republican lawmakers as they have been coming out of this meeting that the house republican conference had this morning and i should tell you any moment we're going to see the speaker and the other members of the leadership. i'll sit down when that happens. but what we've actually heard is what went on behind closed doors is not the backlash from conservatives outside the congress but certainly groups that are very, very upset that the house r
around this fiscal cliff, and you're talking about the housing market. there is talk about what would happen if some of these real estate write-offs are at least reduced or, you know, somehow changed. the housing market is one area that's actually shown positives in the past year or so. any sort of change with that to the mortgage interest deduction and also, any change, possibly in property taxes and those deductions could have a negative effect on the economy. but you know, kelly, there are things that are in our control, if you will. it seems like things are out of control with these d.c. negotiations. but there are some things that we can look at. >> kelly: let me ask you, we, as you said, it's out of control what we can do to get congress and the president to step up and do the right thing and find common ground and give us a solution. so, what's in our control, should we go off that fiscal cliff because of congress's inactivity? >> more than you would think. the first thing, take a look at long-term capital gains and you've probably been hearing this in the news, if you've held
's presentation of the white house's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff falls in line with that. the headline is $1.6 trillion in new taxes multi-year stimulus package starting with at least $50 billion in 2013 alone and the white house also wants the ability to raise the debt limit permanently unless two-thirds of congress vote against it. something also attached, about $400 billion in spending cuts not enough for republicans. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> the white house says they are willing to do tough things to compromise, so now it's time for republicans in washington to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. >> asking for a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to insure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first tim
that allowed him to the white house. our discussion on the fiscal cliff, aweterity masquerading, i hope he will remember the mandate he has from the people. who put him in the white house. i hope he remembers that budgets are moral documents. say what you say, but you are what you are. you put your budget onley table, we'll see what you think of women and children, those suffering community. african-american unemployment, completely off the charts. hispanic community, not doing much better. i saw a number today, as a matter of fact, piers, the median net worth in this country is now at the level of 1969. from 1983 to 2010, the top 1%, their median income dropped 71%, their median net worth jumped 71%. the rest of the country at 1969 levels for median net worth. the president has to understand that. he can't cave in on the debate with the republicans in washington. >> who do you think the gop should turn to now to try to become more electable. putting aside your preferences. where should they go? be braver this time, have a vp pick of condoleezza rice or marco rubio? what should they be thi
is recovering. if we were talking about the fiscal cliff two years ago they would never be able to let this fall through because we were close to recessionary times. we're out of recession. housing prices are beginning to recover. jobs are starting to come back. we're seeing, i think, a manufacturing renaissance back to north america. that is going to be positive through this. >> how much are you hanging your bullish hat on the amount of cash on the sidelines? you've identified already identified that. the fact corporations need to put that money to work, we're underinvested. your bullish call, seems to me, is based on those corporations finally getting off the dime and putting that money to work. is that the idea? >> it's a big part of it. how investment works, right, you build up capacity from a scarcity level, right? you have too much capacity and correct back down again. that was the '90s. we took on a bunch of capacitity and then the first ten years of this millennium we stripped out capacity when the rest of the world was building up capacity. now we have cash on the balance sheet we can s
on fox news sunday. discussing the stalemate of the fiscal cliff between white house and republicans on capitol hill. i sat down with the anchor chris wallace to hear more about the exclusive interview interviews. >> you had two key players. >> we had tim geithner the point man for president. and john boehner, the point man for the congressional and house republicans. >> geithner made the offer to boehner on thursday. boehner said, tells us, he was flabbergasted and said you can't be serious. it called for doublebe what the president talked about in public. not $800 billion in new revenue but $1.6 trillion in revenue. only $600 million in entitlement and spending cuts. well, that is not one to one or three to one. more revenue than spending cuts. they are really far away now. i understand negotiations. i understand opening bid. for first time, it occurred to me they might not get it done. >> you get a sense hearing from both of them that is a real possibility. what do you make of the negotiation of the tactic? it seems like what secretary geithner behalf of the president brought to t
committee after republicans slapped the whole fiscal cliff plan came from the white house yesterday. here's the speaker. no substantive progress has been made between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line, the american economy is on the line and this is a moment for adult leadership bill: there were certainly sharp new reaction from republicans to a white house plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. this is the opening play by the president. here is house speaker john boehner who says that weeks of talks have gone nowhere. melissa: two weeks ago we had very product testify conversation at the white house but based on where we stand today i would say two things. first, despite the claims that the president supports a, a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. bill: the speaker considers that just absolutely wasted time. kentucky democratic congressman john yarmout
, saying he is slightly pessimistic. he says there is 2/3 chance they will go off the fiscal cliff. that is not what the markets want to hear, jon. jon: not at all. ed henry at the white house. if jay carney relents and let you into the meeting give us a shot. we'll be on air. >> reporter: i will give you a copy of the menu. jon: please do, thanks. jenna: we'll forget about politicians just for a moment. i promise we'll return there surely over the next couple hours. let's talk about some renewed private sector pushing to really slash the federal budget. a group called citizens against government waste is calling for nearly $2 trillion in cuts the next five years. doug mckelway is live with the story. doug, how realistic is that goal? >> reporter: how realistic is the goal? not realistic at all. let's be honest about this. at least it is a benchmark we can strive for. citizens against government waste went through the federal budget, they identified $392 billion in cuts. $1.8 trillion in cuts over next five years. which totals 11% of the federal budget, none which touches the most
the fiscal cliff a lot of investment houses are lowering their growth outlook. that is because the owners of small businesses, they are the drivers of the economy. they hire. right now, one out of five cut jobs in the next 12 months. one out of three is cutting capital spending. if there is no jobs we don't have consumer spending that is 70% of g.d.p., so this is really steam rolling. it is frightening. >> gregg: i was reading economists and they say household purchases, wages in salary going down, durable goods decreasing now we have manufacturing coming out on monday as well as jobs report on thursday or friday? >> yeah, the jobs report is expected to be very dismal, about 75,000 net jobs. some of that is because of sandy, but housing market is rebuilding, it's recovering. that makes people feel more wealthy. this retail season is going to be very critical. it's going to tell us a lot. stocks could go up on that. we have some tail winds but right now there is a lot of question marks. >> gregg: brenda, we'll talk about sandy and impact on the economy in the next hour. you can catch brend
house is saying spending cuts will likely be included a final fiscal cliff deal, the devil is in the detail. what is to be cut. there are plenty of places to look. >> while democrats and republicans were speaking over each other at dueling press conferences -- >> the spending is out of control. >> now is the time for the republicans to move past the happy talk about the revenues. put specifics on the table. >> nonpartisan citizen against the government waste laid out specifics to identify 392 billion in spending cuts next year. $1.8 trillion in cuts in five years. >> it's close to the $4 trillion figure that is thrown around as the objective for the discussions on reducing deficit. >> agricultural spending alone they found $85 billion in savings. it suggests eliminating the rural utility service, legacy of the roosevelt era. rural america is now electrified. killing that service could save 44 billion of the five years. eliminate ethanol subsidiarie subsidiaries. they cause farmers to grow corn for food not fuel. i would save $30 billion in five years. eliminate sugar subsid
to the white house. again, the so-called fiscal cliff, austerity masquerading, i hope he remembers the people that put him in the white house, the mandate. and that budgets are moral do t documents, you can say what you say, we'll see what you are, you can say what you think of women, the suffering, african-american communities. completely off the charts. the hispanic community not doing much better. i just saw a number today, in fact, piers, the median net worth in this country is now at the level of 1969. from 1983 to 2010, the top 1%, their median net worth jumped 73%, the rest of the country, we're now at 1969 levels for median net worth. the president has to understand that. he can't cave in on this debate with these republicans in washington. >> who do you think the gop should turn to now to try and become more electable. putting aside your obvious preferences. where should they be going? should they have had a vp pick of a condoleezza rice, or a marco rubioo. >> well, first of all -- >> it is always healthier. >> sure, i agree, i agree in competition. i like real contests. so i want t
and gradually. remember, if we do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list, because that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the housing cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is realogy, and only if it comes down to a level where it's cheap. how about michael in california, please? michael. >> caller: boo-yah to you, jim. with a solid dividend that pays monthly at almost a 16% yield, its current valuation a dollar beneath book value, isn't a.r.r. a great value? >> you know what? i have thought it was. this is another one of those real estate mortgage reits that i have somewhat been mystified about the price performance. someone asked about this on the street, and i said i think it should be doing better. i agree, i think it's an okay buy. john in oregon, please. >> caller: boo-yah, jimmy, how are you? >> boo-yah bac
's top republican laughing out loud at the white house proposal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. this morning, president obama departs to pennsylvania where he will continue his campaign sales pitch on how to solve the country's fiscal challenges. yesterday treasury secretary tim geithner met with republicans to unveil the white house's budget proposal which includes $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. with limited details on spending cuts, the gop's reaction, less than encouraging. senator mitch mcconnell reportedly burst into laughter while geithner
: in part with a hashtag. my 2k. the white house is saying if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff it will cost the average middle class family $2,200 a year and they want middle class social media users, twitter users who don't want that to happen to get online right now. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. right them an email. post it on their nice book walls. you can tweet it using the hashtag, my 2k. >> reporter: as you heard at the top of the show treasury secretary timothy geithner is going to be on the hill today. one of his meetings will be with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell who just said, we are eager to hear the administration's specific plans for protecting jobs and growth by reducing the national debt, reducing washington spending and preventing a tax hike on every american taxpayer. so, bill, the two sides are talking to each other but it does sound li
of the white house's proffer here in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> do you have faith in any of them to rise above? >> would it be okay to go over? >> we will rise above. >> one can only hope. so how should investors brace themselves for the big week ahead? in today's trader triple play, jeff kilburg, along with mahir dongei. steve, you get to go first. would you have expected that today basically a flat-line kind of day for the dow and s&p and so forth, would have been more volatile given greece, given the comments out of washington and in pennsylvania? >> i certainly would have. i'd have thought that the greek news, the bailout tranche, would have been more positive. i would have thought the miss on consumer spending would have been more negative. i would have thought we saw more movement in the futures market before the open. we didn't see that. we waited for the political speakers. they've been pretty much lined up on their sides defending those who voted for therm. they've been moving markets which they didn't do today. >> jeff kilburg, how are you positioning your accounts, your portfo
. the fiscal cliff is actually constructive from the standpoint it causes people to come together and compromise because going over the cliff while we may do it for a short time period is not beneficial to anybody. it hurts everybody. >> so risk assets being, what, technology? what does that mean, technology? >> not necessarily. we would stay with dividend payers. we would also dip our toe into europe into some very high-quality, multicountry stocks there. mostly on consumer discretionary stocks as well. >> george, we haven't forgotten you yet. scott, i have a question for you. just noticed today france and germany's stock markets hit 52-week highs. we're still wringing our hands over the debt crisis, and the equity markets are hitting new highs for the year. is it too late to get into those markets? >> i don't think so, bill, at all. all the european markets are up for the year except portugal, which is up slightly. even greece is up year to date. i don't think you're too late on that trade at all. in fact, i think, quite frankly, the structural changes that are happening in euro
, the president and the white house shoots down the republican's offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. is he really looking to compromise or is it the president's favorite deal no deal at all? laura ingraham weighs in live from washington in moments. >> brian: the dare program teaches kids about the dangers of drugs, won't talk about pot anymore. the reason? kids will smoke it anyway. they're giving up. really? really? "fox & friends" starts now. >> steve: that is something that they're scratching pot off the list. >> brian: it's legal now in some states and people are making believe they have illnesses so they can smoke it and buy it with prescriptions. >> gretchen: you don't have to make anything up. you can say you have a headache. >> brian: in colorado? can you write a -- you can't, but could dr. siegle? >> steve: for medical marijuana. >> brian: in new york? >> steve: i bet he could if if were legal here. >> gretchen: he was going to sew up your coat and so much more earlier today. >> brian: i don't need a surgeon necessarily. >> gretchen: let's get to your headlines. fox news alert. this one
by the white house to talk about what the president's pitch is regarding the fiscal cliff. he's been adamant, the top 2% have to pay a higher tax rate and apparently he wanted the folks from the leftist network all on board with him. >> so in the bush administration, we would sometimes need to do something like talk radio row, i think we called it. it was brilliant. we had the conservative talk radio hosts lined up and get a hole bunch of interviews so they could be persuaded on president bush's plan on things like tax reform, immigration. so from a tactical standpoint, i think president obama is saying, let me talk to people so they make sure they know where i'm coming from. here is the thing that he could do, he is talking to people who agree with him. although some people on the left actual will he want him to go even further left. i think he felt like he need to do shore up those things. but i think president obama is miss ago big opportunity here. i think if he invited some people who don't agree with him, he might be surprised at what he could accomplish. he might be able to charm them
of americans will blame a gop-held house of representatives if we do indeed go off a fiscal cliff. so he's coming into this with basically a list of demands without making any concessions. >> he'll be blamed historically. if he has a second recession on his watch, the history will be written that he presided over two recessions. that's why i refer to him as herbert hoover. [ overlapping speakers ] >> he can't play that game. he can bluff but he can't play that game. >> it's not a bluff. this is not a bluff. >> you think he would take a second recession? >> well, a second recession? >> if all the tax cuts are repealed. all of them. we're going into recession. that's why the congressional budget office said. you think he would risk a second recession that would destroy his second term? >> i think he understands the law of the land today is that everybody gets a tax increase. he's trying to give 98% of the public a tax reduction and essentially the republican party states its position rather that larry ellisson get a tax cut. >> you want to raise the top tax rate. what i'm saying is will he
house is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff this january. that's the word from treasury secretary timothy geithner who appeared yesterday in an interview with cnbc. taxes are still the major impact and geithner says there is no path to an agreement that does not involve a tax hike on the wealthiest 2%. even some members of the g.o.p. are encouraging lawmakers to support the tax hikes in exchange for a broader deal on health and retirement programs. mainly republicans want to see an increase in the medicare eligibility age as well as a smaller amount of inflation applied to social security. the longer speaker boehner waits on a compromise, less bargaining power he will have. many say now is the time to give in on taxes. it is a big day in washington state for same-sex couples who will be able to pick up their wedding certificates today. voters in washington, maine and maryland approved same-sex marriage on the ballot in november. and yesterday, governor chris gregoire signed that into law calling this the las
of progress. but yes, the white house would, "absolutely go over the fiscal cliff" if the republicans would not raise tax rates. now republicans are pointing back to july 2011. this statement by president obama. >> yes, said give us $1.# trillion in additional revenues that could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes. eliminating deductions. and engaging in a tax reform process that could lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> bret: the white house is saying it's out of context but not specifically how out of context. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles? >> look, i love when the president says we need conceptual break through. meaning the republicans have to accept a hike in rates. what he means is a political surrender. because there is no economic reason why you cannot raise the money he wants raised. by doing it through eliminating deductions, inclusions and credit. number one as we saw he, himself, said so. a y
.m. eastern about the fiscal cliff. all part of the white house my2k campaign with the president drumming up support for higher taxes on the rich. dennis: that will be a fair and balanced asourcement of questions. our parent company, parent corp., details on splitsville, editor and chief of the "wall street journal" is ceo of the print spinoff taking the news corp. name. the video film television properties is fox group and the daily, launched by news corp. last year as the first ipad only newspaper, one of them anyway, closing, rest in peace. ad spending is the canary in the coal mine taking a hit, three ad agency giants reducing forecasts for next year. 4.5%. more sluggish 4.1%, and worldwide, interpublic, most bearish, in half to 3.1% next year, and there's this, the 86-year-old icon of playboy getting hitched on new year's eve to crystal harris who is six decades younger, she's 26. now, that's just wrong unless you're hugh hefner. tracy: she didn't show last time. the second engagement, and jilted four days before hand. dennis: i so hope they'll be okay, those young kids. marriage is har
, 27 days until the fiscal cliff. and i know you know that already, but guess what, folks? the deadline for congress and the white house to act, to stop the tax increase and punishing spending cuts, that deadline is coming up quicker than you may realize because did you know, congress plans to end its current session on december 21st? check your calendar as we did today. that's two weeks from friday. that means that under congressional rules any agreement, any legislation to fix this whole mess would have to be filed here by december 28th. here's the kicker. the president currently plans to leave town the day before that, on the 17th of this month. so the yearly obama trip to hawaii is set to start a week from next monday. you feel me here? see where i'm going? the window closing faster than folks think. what are our decisionmakers doing right now? among other things they are apparently sending signals through the media. republicans saying time to get moving. the president saying there is a deal to be had fairly quickly if the republicans come around to raising taxes on the wealthy. let
the fiscal cliff. >>> also at the top of the hour, former white house council economic provider greg mankiw. from currency trading for a few to a currency market for everyone. the potential of fxcm unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. the potential of yelp unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. >>> welcome back, everybody. secretary treasurer time dpiet nev geithner is going to be speaking today. majority leader eric cantor, house bunt committee chairman paul ryan and the chairman of the house is tax's ways and mean committee, also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. he has a pretty full schedule today. >>> yesterday a number of high-profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house including goldman sachs' ceo lloyd blankfein. >> at this point both sides had acknowledged there was going to be revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact, if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here and i'm not no washington, but i would say if you had these point of v
of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm very curious to see what his next step is because his opening offer was essentially where he said he could only go in the debt ceiling bargains of july 2011. he said i can go to $800 billion in revenue, i can do these specific entitlement reforms. that's now his opening offer. where does he go here? >> i think, though, steve that the president of the united states and mr. lew and other democrats need to start looking at him differently. he is like an attorney that knows what his client is going to give and what his client's not going to give. we all know john boehner. john boehner's a deal maker. i didn't -- i liked him personally, but i never trusted him in congress because, you know, he liked making deals. that's what we need right now. the president can only push him so far. or he loses his caucus. and this is not about john boehner kicking and screaming. this is about him knowing what he can deliver. >> i understand that. john boehner has,
one major stock clearing house was raising margin requirements. and then there's the fiscal cliff. analysts citing fears about a hike in capital gains tax in 2013. rick santelli has been talking about this, though, the things that were up in 2012, those are the things being sold now, whether that be gold or any number of assets that rose appreciably over the course of the last year. we'll be talking about the future of apple and the outlook for its stock a little later this morning with jonathan geller of the boy genius report. >> good old bump on the road on the way to a trillion dollar market cap. got to 600 pretty easily. and now it's back at 500. above 600 i guess. tough to get to a trillion dollar market cap. cisco got to 600 billion once, too. it's at 100 billion. apple still at 500. we talked about are they going to come out with the chartreuse slightly smaller mini ipad. and that's going to be the -- a lot of people waiting in line for that one. >> i do have to say, i'm in the market for a mini ipad. >> not for the max ipad? >> no, i want something smaller to carry around,
to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed conservatives say this is something that would help job growth. clearly what we're seeing here is republicans are not speaking with one voice. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> we do agree that 8% of the american people are getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not
. 25 days now until america goes over the fiscal cliff if nothing happens. congress still in a political stalemate. the house of representatives are taking the weekend off. when it comes to solving our debt problems, we know where both parties stand but what about the people who will have to live with the decisions? what do americans, average americans, want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? steve leisman here now with our exclusive results of the cnbc all-america economic survey. what do americans want, steve? >> what you would expect. free stuff, tyler. actually, no, we'll get into that in a second. first we want to show you results of our december cnbc all-america survey. what we asked about the fiscal cliff. the first thing we wanted to establish is do people know about this thing? we looked at some of the other times we've asked this. what we'll see right here is other situations where they knew it, where other main stories that were out there. for example, the trayvon martin shooting. 91% of americans knew about that. occupy wall street, 80%. going forward what you have
. >> tonight, richard wolffe on today's nonsense from republicans and where a deal on the fiscal cliff stands. and former health insurance executive wendell potter on what obama's proposed $340 billion in medicare cuts will mean for seniors. >>> vice president joe biden stumps for the middle class at a retail store that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite t
. >>> the standoff over the fiscal cliff is putting jobs here in california and alison burns has more on this. >> reporter: and secretary panetta has warned the fiscal cliff would hurt our national defense. he's expected to hold a news conference any minute now. he's getting the order from the white house to brace for massive budget cut us. now, the automatic spending cuts that would kick in if congress does not reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff would force the pentagon to slice about 10% of the budget. the defense industry projects one in five defense contracts in california would be lost. the aerospace industry is projecting that 135,000 department jobs would be cut along with 90,000 jobs for a total of about 225,000 jobs lost in california over the next few years. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:16. well, today will mark the 9 oth annual lighting of the national christmas tree. president obama and his family, they will flip a switch lighting that tree this evening. neil patrick harris, remember doogie howser? he will be hosting the event. james taylor and the fray will be amo
on the fiscal cliff. what is going on, rich edson? "imus in the morning" rich: house republicans will host the events with small business leaders in their districts and highlight what republicans say will be the economic damage small-business from raising income-tax rates on families earning $250,000 a year. president obama is leaving washington too though he is only heading across the potomac river, going to suburban virginia to speak to a middle-class family and he will press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases by raising rates on those making more. in washington it is the same fight. >> president obama, democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous, provide economic security for 90% of american families and 97% of small businesses asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday he is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else.
, 2012. i'm gretchen carlson. count down to the edge. 29 days from the fiscal cliff and this is what republicans say about the white house's latest offer. >> flabbergasted. he can't be serious. >> gretchen: but treasury secretary tim geithner says republicans need to make the next move. he's straight ahead. >> gretchen: nfl player murders his girlfriend, kills himself. so what does bob costa say during half time? call for a moment of silence perhaps? no, he pushes for gun control. is that really appropriate? >> steve: that's what he did. sibling rivalry starts in the womb and, ladies and gentlemen there, is proof. the sonogram. that's the first round. twins fighting? can you believe it? that's okay. "fox & friends" hour two for monday starts right now. >> brian: can i lean over now? >> steve: yeah, go ahead. >> steve: that is an extraordinary picture. >> gretchen: it is extraordinary because could it be that the twins in the womb are going no, you move over! i want more food out of that umbilical colored. >> brian: the one thing about that uterus, it's tight in will. >> gretchen: i'm
the battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's the combination, of course, of spending cuts and exexpiring tax breaks set to kick in about a month from now. economists say it could cause another recession. today, the president visited a toy factory in pennsylvania to make his case for his plan. he is asking americans to pressure congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class right now. in fact, extend tax cuts for everybody for the first $250,000 of income. so the families won't have to worry about a new year's day tax hike. republic leaders say letting the tax cuts expire on income of more than $250,000 would hurt small businesses and, as they call them. job creators. let's get to ed henry who is with us from the white house tonight. president says the election proved most americans are on board with this plan. >> that's right. he, without using the word thinks he he basically has a mandate. even though the election is over, he is out campaigning for this again because he thinks there is a dead lock here in washington and he wants to break it with pressure points from the
house absolutely is ready to go over the fiscal cliff. where do negotiations go from there? keep it right here on "morning joe." >>> good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. time to wake up, everybody. welcome back to "morning joe." take a live look at new york city. back with us onset we have harold ford. >> he is a professor. >> yes, he is. >> hard to believe. >> and a former member of congress. >> yes. >> steve rattner. >> he is a financier. >> yes he is. >> also hard to believe. >> and mark halperin in washington. >> he is a secret agent. won't tell us who he is meeting with. >> so cagey. >> boy, there are some stories here. unbelievable. you're talking about libya and i tell you what. you've got assad about to cross that red line and he's going to see russia leaving quick. i think he'll see even troops going in there if he starts using chemical weapons against his own people. morsi in trouble, egypt. the biggest revolt since mubarak was pushed out of power. the "new york times" also has another fascinating story. john boehner gains strong backin
. and president obama is sending the treasury secretary to argue about the fiscal cliff. and we talk to a reasonable democrat, why the president doesn't just lead. plus, a major incentive to buying the house, the mortgage interest deduction, it costs the federal government a lot of money, that deduction is on the table in those talks, got it? next. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain ickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the ly way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiy stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. stuart: one of the biggest incentive to buying a home, mortgage interest deduction. it is on the table in the fiscal cliff tops. that deduction costs the federal government $100 billion a year, li
up, we're one month away from the fiscal cliff and so far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do not favor going -- you favor going over the cliff. that's what they think. they think that you favor -- >> just for the record since we're on tv. that's silly if they think that they shouldn't be ceos. >> it doesn't really matter. that's what they think. >> i want you to walk me up to that moment. >> behind the record. i like that too. >> i'm stuck. like grover is stuck with this pledge he made everybody take which is that they have to go over the cliff because they obviously will not ever say the word tax. they will only say revenue. i'm stuck spe
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